The Policy Layer
We aim to bridge the gap between the builders of Web3 and the people shaping the rules. On the our podcast, you’ll hear from policymakers, developers, academics, and others working at the edge of tech and regulation. We ask the questions everyone’s actually wondering and keep it easy to follow. This is The Policy Layer.
The Policy Layer Podcast
Our podcast feels like having a coffee with the people shaping the future of blockchain and crypto regulation throughout the world. We’re curious, we ask bold questions, and we keep the conversation clear and real.
Ep 64: When Tokens Don’t Fit the Rules: LSTs & MiCA
Liquid staking tokens may sound like a niche corner of crypto, but they raise a much bigger question: can regulation actually keep up with decentralized systems? Juan Ignacio Ibañez of the MiCA Crypto Alliance dicusses why LSTs are so hard to classify under MiCA, and why that ambiguity creates real compliance risk for platforms and service providers. The conversation moves beyond labels to a deeper issue: what happens when existing rules are built for assets with issuers, managers, and clearer boundaries than Web3 often provides. Listen on Spotify and Apple Music. Discover more in their working paper: Crypto-asset Taxonomy for Investors and Regulators
Ep 63: Productivity Enables Security: The Economics of Blockchain Settlement
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US Congress
Candid conversations with members of US Congress who are shaping the future of blockchain. Whether they’re crafting policy, asking tough questions, or just getting curious about crypto, these episodes bring you front-row access to how decisions get made, and why they matter.
Ep 61: US Congressman Troy Downing
Congressman Troy Downing joins us to discuss what it really takes to give digital assets and AI clear rules in the United States. From the Genius Act on stablecoins and the Clarity Act on SEC vs CFTC roles, to his AI Wise Act on education for small businesses, he explains why the US cannot afford to fall behind while still protecting consumers. He also shares how financial literacy, tribal outreach, and real world use cases like title insurance and crop insurance on blockchain fit into a future where traditional banking and new rails grow side by side. 🎧 Listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
Ep 47: US Rep. William Timmons (R-SC)
With stablecoin and market structure bills moving fast, and NFTs waiting in the wings, Rep. William Timmons explains how 2025 could finally bring clarity, credibility, and competitiveness to digital assets. From reshoring innovation to rethinking how government spends money, he walks us through the big vision—and the even bigger questions—behind America’s crypto comeback.
Ava Labs x CBER
We're taking it up a notch with these episodes. They are longer and more technical. When a coffee chat is not enough to cover a subject, you need something to bring you back to your uni days. We are proud to partner with the Crypto and Blockchain Economic Research (CBER) Forum on this academic podcast series called Crafting the Crypto Economy podcast series. These feature deep dives into notable research subjects such as lending platform economics, DEX design, DAO governance, and much more.
Ava Labs x CBER Ep 13: Stablecoins and Digital Payments
This episode covers the digitization of payments and the rise of stablecoins. We discuss China’s CBDC project, the success of USD stablecoins, and the barriers to broader stablecoin adoption. We also examine how stablecoins could reshape the modern payment infrastructure. Guests: Lin William Cong (Cornell University), Simon Mayer (Carnegie Mellon University) Paper: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4063878 🟢https://open.spotify.com/episode/3wECfvSkePcU2sKyFayxDF 🟣 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ava-labs-x-cber-ep-13-stablecoins-and-digital-payments/id1706838957?i=1000737258244
Ava Labs x CBER Ep 12: Beyond the Foundation Model: DUNAs and BORGs
This episode examines the central role nonprofit foundations have played in supporting blockchain networks. We trace their original purpose, how these entities have become a point of friction for many projects, and how regulatory and policy shifts have opened the door to alternatives. We reference two emerging models: the Decentralized Unincorporated Nonprofit Association (DUNA) and the Cybernetic Organization (BORG). Guest: Miles Jennings (Head of Policy & General Counsel at a16z crypto) Paper: https://a16zcrypto.com/posts/article/end-foundation-era-crypto/ 🟢https://open.spotify.com/episode/5N3j22vesfIZbjIFirgoa4 🟣 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ava-labs-x-cber-ep-12-beyond-the-foundation-model/id1706838957?i=1000737256761